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1 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 8, 2011 8:31:42am |
Haaretz an "anti-Israeli newspaper" (CIFWatch), really?
*eyeroll*
Not to mention that this is not the "translation", these are different articles based on the same source. So the title is misleading. Moreover, the English article does mention the anti-Israel angle.
2 | sliv_the_eli Tue, Mar 8, 2011 9:50:44am |
re: #1 Sergey Romanov
Haaretz an "anti-Israeli newspaper" (CIFWatch), really?
*eyeroll*
Not to mention that this is not the "translation", these are different articles based on the same source. So the title is misleading. Moreover, the English article does mention the anti-Israel angle.
Sergey:
Any long-time reader of Ha'aretz, particularly its English language version on-line, can tell you that it views itself and has long viewed itself as Israel's NY Times, and that it suffers from many of the same maladies as NY's "newspaper of record", including a tendency to blame Israel first. This tendency is especially pronounced when, as now, Israel's Prime Minister is not from a left-of-center party. Especially now that Prime Minister Netanyahu is in office, you can be virtually guaranteed that of Israel's major newspapers -- Ha'aretz, Jerusalem Post, Yediot Aharonot and Ma'ariv -- Ha'aretz English's headlines and editorials will be the least supportive of Israel's government and position, generally, on virtually any major event involving Israel.
3 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Tue, Mar 8, 2011 9:58:40am |
Sorry, but I don't tolerate "anti-[state]" rhetoric when it is so unwarranted. Of course, it is usually slapped on the socially liberal and/or opposition media. I won't tolerate it because the same fucking thing goes on in Russia and elsewhere where you have pro-govt shills calling the opposition and its outlets "anti-Russian" or similar names. Critique of the failings of one's own state has always been a part of the the mindset of the liberal intelligentsia anywhere and that is a necessary part of the normal society.
4 | sliv_the_eli Tue, Mar 8, 2011 10:06:10am |
re: #3 Sergey Romanov
I understand your sensitivity to the issue, but Israel is hardly Russia. In the counrty's relatively (to Russia) short history, Israel has no history of dictatorial rule (although its politics were dominated by the left-wing parties for the first 30 years of its existence). Unlike the PA or most Arab and Muslim majority countries, Israel has no government owned media that acts as a propaganda arm of the ruling party. On the contrary, Israel has and has had for years a thriving free press, including newspapers and other outlets which span the political spectrum. Ha'aretz is no more in danger for being criticized when it reflexively takes an anti-Israel stance than the New York Times, Washington Post or LA Times were in danger of being stifled when they were accused of being reflexively anti-U.S. during the Bush administration.